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October 28, 2005, 02:11
Woody
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Great tidings are upon us. The well-loved Boolean Soup chatroom #lisa has been renamed as #bilge! Let there be a feast of fine wines and cheeses!
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October 28, 2005, 02:36
PEader
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Yay. I wonder how they came up with such a name. Those guys in #bilge are geniuses!

[Edited on October 28, 2005 by PEader]
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October 28, 2005, 02:45
Sandman
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Hear ye hear ye.
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October 28, 2005, 13:32
Fiona
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That name is ever better.
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October 28, 2005, 21:18
Rincewind
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Damn, where did the good old #div go. :(
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October 29, 2005, 05:03
Fiona
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It died with Mike's interest in the product it was named after.
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October 29, 2005, 17:40
Sandman
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What product?
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October 29, 2005, 21:30
Rincewind
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Don't loathen your origin, ladies.

I can't see why the chatroom can't be given a decent, permanent name. #lisa and #bilge are crap. I mean, those stand for nothing at all, it's almost anonymous.

And come on, we aren't anonymous, we are all ex div'ers, game programmers. I think the name should be changed.

Suggestions: #BS, #fenix, #Booleansoup, #bsoup, #gamedev, #GD..
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October 29, 2005, 23:27
Frimkron
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I think the majority opinion is that it isn't the chatroom for boolean soup - its just somewhere to hang out.
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October 30, 2005, 00:36
Fiona
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Frim has it right.
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October 30, 2005, 00:51
PEader
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If you're going to have an official chat room for Boolean Soup I'd advise against names such as #fenix, #gamedev and #gd. Something more representitve of the web site would be needed like #bsoup.

As I explained to you in the chat room, Rincewind, #bilge is not a meaningless random word and was carefully chosen for the chat room. It has many meanings but for the chat room we took it as the slang defintion: "stupid talk or writing; nonsense". #Lisa and #Bilge are names chosen by the people in chat room for the people in chat room.

For the name not being permanent it had to be changed due to technical reasons on the server i.e. spam bots continously joing the room and thus only registered users could enter the room.

Also, #Lisa was chosen because it could be manipulated into many accronyms and abbrieviations such as "let it start again" i.e. a new div channel but no definitive meaning for it was given. Also it was chosen because people didn't want to join a room called #div since they didn't have anything to do with Div Games Studio anymore.

Before you slag something off as meaningless or arbituary you should ask about it first.

As for your idea of what is and is not decent what does PHP, C, Google, Div or Java mean? Why can't those things be given "decent" names? Or do you think they are good names simply because you don't know the people who came up with them?

I'm quite annoyed at you calling these names crap when in reality #bsoup or #fenix would be crap names as these are not representive of the people who are in the chat room.

[Edited on October 30, 2005 by PEader]
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October 30, 2005, 01:31
Fiona
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Could not have put it any better.
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October 30, 2005, 01:41
TheMI3
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I personally think #bilge is a shit name, but so is #bsoup or something. But you should just get a name and stick to it.
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October 30, 2005, 02:01
PEader
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Quoting TheMI3:
I personally think #bilge is a shit name, but so is #bsoup or something. But you should just get a name and stick to it.

You're just one of those people that thinks everything is shit i.e. a cunt.
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October 30, 2005, 02:36
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Quoting TheMI3:
I personally think #bilge is a shit name, but so is #bsoup or something. But you should just get a name and stick to it.

I resent that.
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October 30, 2005, 11:35
Rincewind
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Quoting Frimkron:
I think the majority opinion is that it isn't the chatroom for boolean soup


I know, it's not, it's just an over-evolved divchat. That doesn't mean though it can't be given a name that is connected to game development, after all that's more describing than 'bilge'. As Peter says bilge means "stupid talk or writing; nonsense", well, that means "crap". Personally I don't feel connected to crap. And if you guys do feel connected to crap, then I don't know what I'm still doing here.

Quoting Peader:
#Bilge are names chosen by the people in chat room for the people in chat room.

Obviously I was not in the room at that moment (I am learning exams). That's why I am starting about it now. And sadly I was on holiday when the name was changed to #lisa.

Quoting Peader:
people didn't want to join a room called #div


Funny that you say that, I know honorable people who don't want to join the current channel because people talk more bullshit than that they talk about game development.
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October 30, 2005, 14:00
TheMI3
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Quote:
You're just one of those people that thinks everything is shit


Your the second person this week to say that to me.

And please, for the love of all that is/may be holy, change the name to something else.
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October 30, 2005, 14:12
Woody
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It'd be pretty simple to set up a #bsoup channel in talkcrap strictly for programming discussion. I doubt any of the regulars would go in there, though.
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October 30, 2005, 14:28
Deadmaster
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Lets be honest; a chat room is never going to be full of completely on topic stuff. At least not with the regulars we have around here.

#blige will not be used primarily for programming talk, Rincewind, therefore there is no reason to attempt to name it after DIV (which nobody here uses anyway), Fenix, or any other language. Programming will still be discussed, but do you really think that the majority of the talking will be about programming?


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Personally I don't feel connected to crap. And if you guys do feel connected to crap, then I don't know what I'm still doing here.


In that case, don't go in the chat room, cause thats what it'll be full of.

[Edited on October 30, 2005 by Deadmaster]
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October 30, 2005, 14:45
Sandman
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Quoting Rincewind:
Funny that you say that, I know honorable people who don't want to join the current channel because people talk more bullshit than that they talk about game development.

Well, I don't care if they think they're above other people, let them whine about it and let the rest stay happily in the current channel. I like the current channel and its name.
Of course everybody is welcome, but it's no fun if people start to decay because of a channel name or because of people having a bit of fun.
I don't know if I would join (or be very active in) an official programming channel, when it is not allowed to have the fun I like (which is allowed in #bilge, obviously).
On the newcomers thing (from chat): there weren't many newcomers lately, and those who were, came more often and so I don't think anyone scared them away.
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October 30, 2005, 15:02
Eckolin
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#anything
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October 30, 2005, 15:33
PEader
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Quoting Rincewind:
Quoting Peader:
people didn't want to join a room called #div


Funny that you say that, I know honorable people who don't want to join the current channel because people talk more bullshit than that they talk about game development.


Anyone who joins a chat room needs to be able to initiate a conversation. I'm not sitting in there to pander to someone elses conversation needs. No matter how honourable they are. What is with honourable, is that lost in translation?
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October 30, 2005, 15:51
PEader
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Quoting Rincewind:
Quoting Frimkron:
I think the majority opinion is that it isn't the chatroom for boolean soup


be given a name that is connected to game development, after all that's more describing than 'bilge'.

I and several others on the chat room don't develop games so why would we link it specifically to game development? You're missing the point #bilge is an all encompassing name that can't be pigeon holed.
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October 30, 2005, 17:18
Fiona
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It's not as if you can't talk about programming in it anyway, there was tons of TADS chat going on at one point in #lisa. We just talk about what is pertinent at the time.
Who gives a crap abut the name? That's like saying you don't to visit Boolean Soup because you don't like soup.
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November 5, 2005, 06:29
Mezzmer
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792 posts

Quoting Woody:
It'd be pretty simple to set up a #bsoup channel in talkcrap strictly for programming discussion.


[Duhhh, did anyone actually read this post properly? Clever Woody. I even imagine in the future the possibility of a java applet running from Boolean Soup.] (piece i don't really mean)

As far as the death of #div, I remember trying to contact Mike to see if he needed a channel on the talkcrap server, but did he ever get back to me?

And quite frankly i am sick of the bitching that comes with something so small as the channel name. It all comes down to who the regulars are in there, and what they want. No it's not a perfect democracy. I wasn't consulted before the channel name was changed to #bilge and I was the one who arranged us a place on Talkcrap in the first place.

But who cares? Seriously.

[Edited on November 5, 2005 by Mezzmer]
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